Philosophies and Mysteries

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It is widely believed that, between approximately 15 to 20 million years ago, a large number of sub-oceanic volcanic eruptions took place which led to the emergence of some islands (among which speculatively Madeira) and the destruction of others; such as the much debated continent of Atlantis.

Scientists continue to debate to this day whether Madeira was born from the lava flow or whether Madeira was already here. I am a firm believer that Madeira was already here. If the continent of Atlantis truly existed, I believe this small island is a living remnant of that ancient legend. However, I am not here to make anyone believe anything. My articles are merely to offer you some insights. Ultimately, it will be up to you, the reader, to decide what you believe and what you do not.

As a testimony to the island’s volcanic origin, there are numerous peaks with breath taking valleys. The most notorious valley is that of “Curral das Freiras”, which is a sleepy little town where, originally, in the 17th century Madeiran nuns founded a convent. Their intention was to have their own religious retreat and find refuge from the French pirates who invaded the island at the time.

Curral das Freiras is situated in the heart of a dormant volcanic crater of nearly 5 kilometres in diameter. It is surrounded by six mountain peaks, which are all composed of calcareous rock found to contain marine fossils. Coincidently, the highest peak, on the island, is Pico Ruivo, which is about 1800 meters above sea level.

In São Vicente it’s possible to visit the “caves” that stand as a witness to the original lava channels, which are still visible to this day. They are naturally preserved as part of an ongoing ecological awareness project run by the Autonomous Region of Madeira. Another testimony of Madeira’s volcanic origins can be found in Santo da Serra where there is yet another extinct volcanic crater, called “Lagoa de Santo da Serra”, which nowadays serves as a natural water reservoir.

If you have read any account of the history of Madeira, you will have learnt that
the island was discovered in 1419 or 1420 by João Gonçalves Zarco, Tristão Vaz,
(who were both members of the D. Henrique infantry) and Bartolomeu Perestrelo,
who, together, discovered Porto Santo about a year earlier. However, it is fairer to say
these seafarers only colonialised Madeira and Porto Santo; turning them into Portuguese territories. They did not discover the islands. In fact, historical evidence proves Madeira was on the map long before the Portuguese captains arrived.

There is a Portolan navigational chart, dated 1351, preserved in Florence, Italy, also known as the “Portolano Laurenziano Gaddiano of the Laurentian Library”, which clearly shows Madeira on the map and proves that Madeira had been discovered by Portuguese vessels under Genoese captains; a long time before Zarco disembarked on its shores.

Unfortunately there is a lack of sufficient concrete evidence but there is potential speculation that the Phoenicians discovered Madeira at a very early period and were regular visitors to the unchartered and hostile territory that Madeira once was.

Pliny the Elder, also known as Gaius Plinius Secundus, (AD 11 – 68 AD Approx), a famous navigator and army commander for the Roman empire talks about the“Purple islands”, which he named as such after the purple coloured dye that was obtained from the sap of the island’s dragon trees. The geographical position he gives, with reference to distances (in latitude and longitude) from Mauretania and the Fortunate Islands, (which were the Canaries), may seem to indicate Madeira.

The interesting thing to note here is that, during Pliny’s time, purple dye was quite rare. It was the most prestigious and most expensive dye that could be purchased. It was only used for dying the robes of the dignitaries. It was an old tradition said to be
found in Homer’s ancient Greece.

The general consensus is that the discovery of purple dye is accredited to the Phoenicians, which would tie in with what was mentioned above.

Another historical piece of evidence to suggest Madeira’s discovery, prior to Zarco et al, is given by Plutarch who, when referring to the military commander Quintus Sertorius, relates that after his return to Cadiz, following a military reverse in
Mauretania,

“he met with seamen recently arrived from the Atlantic islands,
two in number, divided from one another only by a narrow
channel, and distant from the coast of Africa ten thousand
furlongs. These are called the Islands of the Blest; rains fall there
seldom, and in moderate showers, but for the most part they have
gentle breezes, bringing along with them soft dews, which render
the soil not only rich for plowing and planting, but so abundantly
fruitful that it produces spontaneously an abundance of delicate
fruits, sufficient to feed the inhabitants, who may here enjoy all
things without trouble or labor. The seasons of the year are
temperate, and the transitions from one to another so moderate,
that the air is almost always serene and pleasant. The rough northerly
and easterly winds which blow from the coasts of Europe and Africa,
dissipated in the vast open space, utterly lose their force before they
reach the islands. The soft western and southerly winds which breathe
upon them sometimes produce gentle sprinkling showers, which they
convey along with them from the sea, but more usually
bring days of moist bright weather, cooling and gently fertilizing
the soil, so that the firm belief prevails even among the barbarians, that
this is the seat of the blessed, and that these are the Elysian Fields
celebrated by Homer”, (Lives of Noble Grecians and Romans ,
Plutarch, Chapter 41, 100AD).

Does this sound like Madeira?

Part 6 will follow when I have time to sit and write it :-)))

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It’s the late 1400s. The precise year is a little hazy. The place is southern France or southern Spain. The precise location is a little unclear too. The Moors occupy the land. There is political unrest because one of the Kings wants to regain the land for the Catholics. A tale of two lovers that spans centuries; her family and his were Moors.

Marriages were arranged in their culture, and she was given to him in exchange for a family merger of land. Yet, in time she grew to love him. He was a dutiful husband; loyal, hardworking and always there for those in need.

Their families primarily made wine and oil. They both loved country life and the smell of fresh lemons and oranges in the early morning dew. It was unclear exactly how long they’d been married. They still lived in the family property and they didn’t have any children. They’d decided to wait until they had a place of their own.

He was always so busy. After a year or two of their marriage he started getting involved with the Moor rebellion group. Soon he became their leader. They held secret meetings in a large room that was annexed to the kitchen in the rural house they lived in. Only the men attended. Women were never allowed to enter the room during the meetings.

One night, he sent her out during one of the meetings. She was alerted to something being wrong when she heard the neighbours screaming that the soldiers were coming. She ran home to find him and the others being attacked by the soldiers. Some were killed and some were taken prisoners. He was taken away before her very eyes as the soldiers pushed her out of the way. She was helpless.

Within a flash she saw him being be-headed in the public square. Everyone was forced to watch, including her. They wanted to make an example of him as to what would happen if anyone else dared to rebel. She screamed as she watched him die; not knowing if he ever really loved her. Her heart was broken in more ways than one. It destroyed her very soul. After his death, she vowed never to remarry in any lifetime until she found him again. She lived the rest of her life as a recluse until she died at the age of 80 or so.

Fact or fiction? Imagination or memory? One may never know. Yet, to people who have experienced past life regression, or believe in past lives it could be very real; and not necessarily on an every day conscious level.

Memories from past lives, whether you believe in them or not, leave traces on a subconscious level, like a hidden blueprint that we’re not even aware of. Yet, they have a way of subtly finding their way into our consciousness and influencing the way we live, the way we behave, the things we do and the way we react in the situations we find ourselves in.

Sometimes, we carry on the same old patterns as we did in our previous lives. Sometimes, we add new ones; in an attempt to improve who we are. Sometimes, we turn our lives completely around and become the total opposite of our past lives.

Whether you believe in past life memories or not, there’s no denying that at some point we’ve all found ourselves liking, or unusually being attracted to a particular person for no apparently logical reason. We could find ourselves attracted to a particular place or smell or colour for no particular reason. We could surprise ourselves with talents we didn’t even know we had. How many times have you had that feeling of knowing someone all your life when you’ve only just met them?

Similarly, we may find ourselves instantly disliking or distrusting someone for no reason. We may feel uncomfortable somewhere or dislike something for no apparent reason. We may have an inexplicable fear of something that seems irrational or illogical. I dare say we may even sometimes have that feeling of searching for something we can’t seem to find.

Although reincarnation and past lives has been a subject I have been studying for years, in fact some of you may have read my article on past lives –

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- just recently I haven’t been able to see the wood for the trees. Recent intense communication with a newfound friend, in the Algarve, opened my eyes to the fact that:

In some cases, we may just find ourselves fighting for something, in this life, that is only driven by the subconscious residue of a distant memory left over from a previous life. It may be because we feel we have unfinished business. It may be because we feel we never achieved the dream. It may be because we’re searching for that one and only true love we made a vow to.

Unfortunately, though, life doesn’t work that way; especially when it involves other people. We may be able to achieve certain left over dreams from previous lives but not all, and it’s not a crime. What is a crime is not recognising when we’re hurting someone else through our own selfishness.

We have to remember that at any point in time, when we make a vow or when we do something, we do the best we can with the knowledge we have available to us at that time. Our knowledge changes with time. One would hope we become wiser and therefore our judgments change. Hence we’re subsequently better equipped to make better calls. Coach Steve taught me that a couple of years ago and I’m still eternally grateful.

Perhaps we need to analyse whatever it is that is the object of our desire and attachment and ask ourselves why. We need to look at a situation a little more closely and look at our responses to it. We could try meditating on it. Or, if you’re willing to try something different, you could seek out a qualified expert in past life regression therapy.

Maybe, when we say: “We need to let go of the past”, we actually need to let go of more than one past or at least be open to that possibility. We need to let it go in the past and we need to let it go in the present – emotionally, psychologically and physically; for our sake and for the sake of others around us. Only then, can we truly start picking up the pieces and moving on.

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Picture this. You’re nearly 40 years old. Your name is Hanan. You have three beautiful children who love you more than anyone else. You’re married to the man of your dreams. Everything is perfect; just the way you always wanted it to be.

One day, you leave your family and travel abroad for heart surgery. Before the operation you call your daughter but you can’t get through. After the operation, you want to call but you can’t remember the last digit in the number. You get frustrated. You want to go home to your loved ones but you can’t. You’re forced to live with another family.

Years pass. Everyday you think about your family. Your love for them never dies. Finally, one day you are allowed to meet up with them again, but they don’t love you the same way. You find out your husband has another woman. Your children don’t want to look at you. You feel betrayed, hurt and rejected. Your world is completely shattered. Your very reason for being is taken away from you for the second time.

It’s not your fault. All you want is for things to be the way they were before the operation. You want your family to love you and accept you again. You want them to be happy to see you. You want your dream back. There’s only one obstacle. You’re 5 years old and your name is Suzanne. How do you deal with the heartache? How do you live with the trauma?

If you think this sounds unreal. Think again. This is just one of many documented cases of reincarnation and past life memories around today.

What is reincarnation? Reincarnation comes from the Eastern philosophies of Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism. They believe a soul comes back, in many bodies, over many lifetimes to learn and grow. It is its chance to make old wrongs right.

In Western culture, Edgar Cayce was one of the first people to introduce this philosophy back in the 1950s. In many of his readings, he says the main purpose of the soul is to learn and grow; to earn its place next to the Creator.

However, reincarnation is not widely accepted among Christians. Christianity says we have two options in this lifetime. We can either be good and go to heaven, or we can be bad and go to hell. Either way, we don’t get second chances. Yet, nowadays religious faith is being challenged more and more. Many people are turning to Holistic ways of living. Media is full of “alternative” ways of thinking. So, even many Christians find themselves curious about the subject.

There are many books available on reincarnation like Dr. Brian Weiss’s Many Lives, Many Masters (1988) and Tom Shroder’s Old Souls (1999). The problem with authors (sceptics and believers alike), researchers and speculators is that everyone is too busy trying to prove if reincarnation exists or not. Some argue over proof and lack of it. Some argue how research methods are not good enough. Some are too busy just trying to make a name for themselves.

While researching the American, Italian, British and Portuguese Psychological societies online, I found that nobody is studying how memories of past lives directly or indirectly affect children’s mental health. Nobody is offering professional help for teenagers who live with the suffering these memories cause. Nobody is developing new models of thought to help these young people. Why?

We like to think of ourselves as an evolved society of human beings but science and scientists are behind the times; not just in Western societies. Science refuses to accept that reincarnation exists because there are no hard facts. My question is how can we continue to let these children suffer in the name of a “globally accepted” science that is completely out of date? Why can’t we (as scientists) put our beliefs, religion, culture and egos aside to find new ways of helping these children?

In Western society, we choose to believe or not in reincarnation. However, for the Druze (or Druse) memories of past lives are very real. They are a group of people who follow the spiritual faith of El-Mowahideen El-Druze. It is not certain but the Druze faith may have started in Egypt about 1000 years ago. According to the Druze Organisation, nowadays there are almost one million followers worldwide. Many live in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, parts of India and Egypt. Many others live in Western societies. (www.druzenet.org/dnenglish.html)

Although the Druze basic religious beliefs begin in Islam, their faith is very different. They believe their spiritual leader, El-Mowahideen El-Druze, was the reincarnation of God. They believe in the efforts of man and his actions. Their central philosophy is that a soul will return to earth many lifetimes to learn and grow. They believe it has done so since the beginning of time and will do so until the end of time.

These differences caused religious wars in regions such as the Gaza strip. They also played a part in the civil war in Lebanon.

During his (almost) 40 year career, Dr. Ian Stevenson travelled throughout Lebanon and India documenting cases of past life memories. He interviewed thousands of Druze children, their family members, friends and neighbours. He also did follow-up interviews to see how memories of past lives affected behaviour in adult life. Yet, he offers little or no research on mental health issues.

Shroder documents more than twenty cases from Stevenson’s 1998 visit in Old Souls. He also mentions some cases found in the United States of America.

The first person to bring past life memories to the general public, was Dr. Brian Weiss. In 1988 he published: Many Lives, Many Masters. In it, he speaks of his patient Catherine, who comes to him because she is seeking a cure for her fears of water and choking, dieing and airplanes.

At first, he believes these fears come from somewhere in Catherine’s childhood. So, they both agree hypnotherapy is the best treatment. Hypnotherapy is a form of hypnosis used to bring painful, hidden memories back into the waking mind. So, the professional can help a patient face them, deal with them and let them go. This is the way Inner healing begins.

During hypnotherapy, a professional uses hypnotic suggestions to guide a person into a deep state of relaxation. In this state, the conscious mind, which processes all the information we receive, is temporarily switched off. So, we are free to enter the sub-conscious mind. This is where we store all information we are not fully aware of; including painful memories.

Catherine has several hypnotherapy sessions with Dr. Weiss. He asks her to remember anything from her childhood that she associates with her fears. She remembers nothing. One day, Weiss gives her a different type of hypnotic suggestion. He asks her to remember the first ever memory she feels is the cause. Suddenly, Catherine starts talking about previous lives.

As the memories unfold, Weiss discovers that her fear of water comes from drowning in another life. Her fear of airplanes comes from being a male soldier in the Second World War. Slowly, he finds that every current fear of hers comes from something that happened in another lifetime.

They begin to see progress and Catherine’s fears begin to disappear. However, she is mentally disturbed by knowing that she is talking about past lives. Reincarnation is not a word that is in her vocabulary since it challenges her beliefs. Dr. Weiss has to convince her a lot to continue the sessions.

As far as I am aware, there is no follow-up research to say how Catherine was mentally marked by her experience. Her fears disappeared but has her life changed as a result? Has she suffered any form of identity crisis? Did what she gain outweigh what she lost? These are all questions that remain unanswered.

One of Dr. Stevenson’s cases, Daniel, remembered dieing in a car accident when he lived as a young man called Rashid. He started speaking of this as a very young child. He remembered names, faces, his previous mother, his family members and so on. He accused his current mother of not being his mother; his family of not being his real family. He insisted daily on being taken back to his real family.

His mother says that, as a child, Daniel didn’t like getting in the car. Also, that he screamed and cried every time they drove past the scene of the accident.

As a man, Daniel tells us that he likes cars but he still has a fear of fast driving. He, also, still has a fear of the place where the accident happened. So, simply talking about traumas from past lives is not enough to make fears disappear. At least not in every case as Weiss would have us believe.

Daniel only begins to feel better when he and his family meet Rashid’s. Luckily, they all find support and friendship in one another. Daniel’s parents no longer see their child suffering and they become more accepted by him. Rashid’s parents no longer grieve because they have a part of their son back and Daniel finds himself with two loving support groups he can turn to. Everyone is happy and the trauma is overcome.

But what about Suzanne’s case? She was only six months old when she tried to phone Hanan’s daughter; Leila. She is now a young woman and still very much in love with her husband. She still misses her children and cries for them as a mother would. As well as coming to terms with her new life and growing up, she has to deal with emotions of loss, anger, jealousy etc. tied to her last life.

Over the years, Farouk decided to break all ties with her because of his own feelings of pain and guilt. He and the family believed she was Hanan but they couldn’t deal with the fact that she was now a little girl. The only solution was to walk away. However, walking away is only avoiding the issue. Neither parties involved had professional help they could turn to. Now in his sixties, Farouk is still affected by the experience.

Suzanne’s life is not moving forward and she is not mentally developing in a healthy way. She is living in the past and nobody is helping her to come through this. Who she was is very real to her; like for many others. The feelings and emotions of the past life are very real. It is not about having some memories of being someone else. It is not about having fears that come from somewhere unknown as with Catherine. It is about being born as the same identity in a different body, a different environment and in a different family.

Psychiatrist Jim Tucker explains this as a transfer of one person’s personality into another. However, nobody knows what a personality is. Nobody knows what a soul is. So, it’s impossible to explain how either one can go from one body to another. At present, psychology and science offer no help either. In fact, they are challenged by the very existence of children like Suzanne.

Psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud was the first to say that infants, as young as six months, are only capable of satisfying their biological needs. They have no awareness similar to that of adults. He says personality only develops while growing up.

Carl Jung, founder of analytical psychology, proposed that babies are born with instincts. Thus, they automatically know how to get attention, when and how to cry for food etc. It is something he believed we all shared in common in a collective unconscious.
Psychologist, Jean Piaget, in his Theory of Cognitive Development proposed that infants only begin to put together actions (on purpose) by the age of 2 years. Up until that time, he believes they only understand the world through how they interpret it. They learn by trial and error of their actions.

Yet, at six months, Suzanne behaves similar to an adult. She picks up a phone and tries to call Hanan’s daughter’s. She shows no sign of understanding she is a baby. She is only held back by the limiting abilities of her physical age.

This is not the first case where this appears. Another infant called Joseph insisted his mother buy him size 8 shoes. She tells him they will be too big but he doesn’t believe it until he tries them on. In another case, Robert can speak and string whole sentences together by the age of 6 months.

These children are outside the normal child development models presented above. Unfortunately, nobody is developing a model for them. There are no guidelines to help professionals help them. We need to be open to new possibilities and start looking at things in a different way if we are to find a solution. Not only would it be beneficial for cases of reincarnation, it would help to explain the development of child geniuses in the world.

However, science continues to ignore the issue. So, what are we left with? Transpersonal and Holistic psychology. These are relatively new fields that look at the person as a unique individual made up of mind, body and soul. They do not stick to strict clinical methods of investigation like conventional science but it does not make them any less of value. They give individuals the safety to talk about memories of past lives.

However, they fail to offer cross-cultural understanding. To understand a culture, one has to live in that culture. One has to be able to put aside their own belief systems. One has to be accepted into that culture and break through barriers of prejudice. One has to be able to communicate in a way that is understandable in another culture. Most important of all, one has to learn to be humble in front of another culture.

Having travelled extensively throughout 39 countries and worked with almost every nationality on the planet, I know how important adaptation and respect is. Too many wars have pulled us apart as human beings.

It’s time we put our egos aside and worked together as one people. It’s time that science and transpersonal science find a way to work together. It’s time to stop fighting over who is right and who is wrong. If we are going to help children with past life memories, we need to develop new ways of thinking. We need to come up with new models and guidelines to help professionals have a better understanding.

Children are children. They are the future of this world. As such, they deserve the best attention we can give them, regardless of their culture, religion, colour or belief. Unless we find new ways of helping them, we will never be able to call ourselves evolved human beings.

Jill said to me once …

……….I would love to have people perceive an alternative definition as to what the human mind gives (brands) to the definition of OCCULT

So, here it is, my question to you all … what is your definition of the occult?

As per usual, I searched through a few online dictionaries and here is what I came up with, as per the world perspective:

Occultism is endorsed in movies, in video games, on TV and in literature as:

· creatures that have both human and non-human form and characteristics

· beings with paranormal (psychic) powers who call upon some strange god(s) to fill themselves with special supernatural powers.

· people who are normal but can change into a different being by calling upon an element in nature (air, fire, earth, water, ethers)

Comment: - I am not going to even get into this one… I am sorry but I think this is, probably, the most absurd definition I have ever come across … In fact I only included it because it is interesting to see how modern day, popular culture, defines this incredibly ancient term, which dates back to the ancient Egyptian, Greek and even Atlantean civilization.

However, I did find this:

Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.
Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.
Available only to the initiate; secret: occult lore.
Hidden from view; concealed.
In medical terms:
Medicine Detectable only by microscopic examination or chemical analysis, as a minute blood sample.
Not accompanied by readily detectable signs or symptoms: occult carcinoma.
Please note how this is both interesting and slightly contradictory at the same time, in so much that it advocates something “hidden from view”, yet at the same time it states that traces are visible.

In this context then … I ask you to ponder on whether the occult is, in fact, something non-existent, and perhaps just a figment of the human imagination, spanning absolutely centuries, or … whether … the fact that traces are, possibly, existent demands us to question the very foundations of “existential reality of the occult”, as in a mixture of myth and history, or folks’ hearsay.

I think it is wise to mention here that occultism and Satanism, or black magic, have absolutely nothing to do with each other and are totally unrelated in any way what so ever, although there are those who would classify one as a branch of the other … not so … I’m afraid!!!.

My personal definition of the occult is that which embodies the entire universal, and cosmic mysteries, since before the beginning, of our concept, of time and space. It embraces everything, which we cannot quite describe, from the data received through our five physical senses, although our sixth sense somehow…. “just knows”. I am sure many of you have had that feeling of not quite being able to put your finger on it …. But just knowing that you knew … (if that makes sense).

Magic is a classic example of occultism … It follows a sequence of visible, ritualistic acts, the end product is visible, somewhat but … the forces at work, to give the end product, are not visible to the naked eye … ie, the energy force, which is used for the purpose of making something happen, or not.

In this respect, even a human being is a semi-occult creature because we all have thoughts and we all have the ability to imagine but, in reality, we cannot physically visualize, or touch, the processes at work whilst we are thinking, or imagining, but I’m not even going to go down that road now … because it would require a lot more explanation than just a few paragraphs!!!

Some people have experienced past life regressions … some people often speak of Déjà vu … some experience awakened states of “knowing” … some people claim they have seen UFOs … others believe they lived in previous lifetimes, some have an innate knowledge they can’t account for, or explain, and so forth and so on …. All these affirmations can be attributed to “occultism”. The tarot, astrological predictions, (although this is considered more of a science nowadays), certain aspects of numerology and other esoteric practices are all members of the, so say, “occult” society.

The truth is … as human beings we cannot really define an indefinable, if that makes sense … To be able to define something we have to first recognize it and be able to draw a comparison to something similar, already stored in our database of definitions, in order for us to transform it into an acceptable, and humanly comprehensive, description …

But … and there is always a but … every individual has a unique, thinking process, as we already discovered in one of my last threads … so … perception of the defined, will always be different between individuals due to priory ingrained experiences, which constitute a viewpoint for perspectives.

So, my friends … as Jill asks …

what is your definition of the occult?

Here, I am going to give you a different perspective of Atlantis, the Atlantis that is very much alive in all who believe in it so strongly, like myself. Some may choose to believe and others may choose to be sceptical about it but I am sure that, in our wonderful forum, the sceptics are minimal.

To start with, though, I am going to, very briefly, introduce you to Edgar Cayce.

Edgar Cayce, whom someone mentioned in one of the forum postings’, is considered one of the greatest “sleeping prophets” to have existed in modern times. I say “sleeping” because he use to place himself into some kind of self-induced sleep state by lying down on a couch, closing his eyes, and folding his hands over his stomach. This state of relaxation and meditation enabled him to place his mind in contact with all time and space. From this state he could respond to questions as diverse as, “What are the secrets of the universe?” to “How can I remove a wart?” His responses to these questions came to be called “readings” and contain insights so valuable that, even to this day, individuals have found practical help for everything from maintaining a well-balanced diet and improving human relationships to overcoming life-threatening illnesses and experiencing a closer walk with God.

I would like to share with you this reading:

Reading Topic - OCCULT: ATLANTIS

TEXT OF READING 364-10

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home in Pinewood on Lake Drive, Virginia Beach, Va., this 28th day of April, 1932, in accordance with request made by those present.

P R E S E N T

Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mildred Davis, H. L. & L. B. Cayce.

R E A D I N G Time of Reading 3:00 P. M.

1. GC: You will have before you the information given through this channel on the lost continent of Atlantis. You will please continue with this information, and answer the questions which I will ask regarding same.

2. EC: Yes. In understanding, then, in the present terminology, occult science, or psychic science - as seen, this was the natural or nature’s activity in that experience, and not termed a science - any more than would be the desire for food by a new born babe. Rather the natural consequence. This explanation may of necessity take on some forms that may possibly be confusing at times, but illustrations may be made through the various types of occult science, or psychic manifestations, that may clarify for the student something of the various types of psychic manifestations in the present, as well as that that was natural in this period.

3. There is, as has been oft given, quite a difference - and much differentiation should be made - in mysticism and psychic, or occult science as termed today.

4. From that which has been given, it is seen that individuals in the beginning were more of thought forms than individual entities with personalities as seen in the present, and their projections into the realms of fields of thought that pertain to a developing or evolving world of matter, with the varied presentations about same, of the expressions or attributes in the various things about the entity or individual, or body, through which such science - as termed now, or such phenomena as would be termed - became manifest. Hence we find occult or psychic science, as would be called at the present, was rather the natural state of man in the beginning. Very much as (in illustration) when a baby, or babe, is born into the world and its appetite is first satisfied, and it lies sleeping. Of what is its dreams? That it expects to be, or that it has been? Of what are thoughts? That which is to be, or that which has been, or that which is? Now remember we are speaking - these were thought forms, and we are finding again the illustrations of same!

5. When the mental body (Now revert back to what you are calling science) - when the mental body, or mind, has had training, or has gone through a course of operations in certain directions, such individuals are called so-and-so minded; as one of an inventive turn, and trained; one of a statistician turn, and trained; one of a theologian turn, and trained; one of philosophical turn, and trained. Of what does the mind build? We have turned, then, to that that has become very material, for the mind constantly trained makes for itself MENTAL pictures, or makes for that as is reasoned with from its own present dimensional viewpoints - but the babe, from whence its reasoning? from whence its dream?

From that has been taken in, or that that has been its experience from whence it came? Oft has it been said, and rightly, with a babe’s smile ‘Dreaming of angels’, and close in touch with them - but what has PRODUCED that dream? The contact with that upon which IT has fed! Don’t forget our premise now from which we are reasoning! and we will find that we will have the premise from which those individuals, or the entities, reasoned within the beginning in this land. (We are speaking of Atlanteans, when they became as thought forces.) From whence did THEY reason?

From the Creative Forces from which they had received their impetus, but acted upon by the thought FORMS as were in MATERIAL forms about them, and given that power (will) to be one WITH that from what it sprang or was given its impetus, or force, yet with the ability to USE that in the way that seemed, or seemeth, good or well, or pleasing, unto itself. Hence we find in this particular moulding or mouldive stage, that in which there was the greater development of, and use of, that as is termed or called psychic and occult forces, or science - in the present terminology, or age.

6. Illustrating, then, that as to how this was used by those entities, those beings, in the formative stage of their experience or sojourn among that as had been created in all of its splendor to supply every want or desire that might be called forth by that being, with all of its attributes physical, mental AND SPIRITUAL at hand; for, as has been given, even unto the four hundred thousandth generation from the first creation was it prepared for man’s indwelling. As we today (turn to today), we find there the developments of those resources. How long have they remained? Since the beginning! How long has man been able to use them for his undoing, or his pleasure, or for his regeneration? Since the knowledge of some source has awakened within its psychic force, or source, of the apparatus, or the form that it takes, either in a physical or mental (for remember, Mind is the Builder - and it moves along those channels through which, and by which, it may bring into existence in whatever dimension or sphere from which it is reasoning, or reasoning toward - see) - and as these may be illustrated in the present:

7. When there is a manifestation of a psychic force, or an occult action, or phenomena, or activity in, upon, of or for, an individual, there is then the rolling back, as it were, or a portion of the physical consciousness - or that mental trained individual consciousness - has been rolled aside, or rolled back, and there is then a visioning - To what? That as from the beginning, a projection OF that form that assumed its position or condition in the earth as from the beginning, and with those so endowed with that as may be called an insight into psychic sources there may be visioned about a body its astral (if chosen to be termed), rather its THOUGHT body, as is projected FROM same in such a state; especially so when there is the induction, or the inducing of, an unconsciousness of the normal brain, or normal mental body.

Submerged - into what? Into the unconscious, or subconscious. Sub, in THIS instance, meaning BELOW - not above normal; below - SUBJECTED to the higher consciousness, or to the higher thought, that has been builded - just as sure as has a physical body been builded, from what? That as has been given from its first nucleus as passed through in its experience. Then there may be visioned by such a body, as may be called with the second sight, or with a vision, that accompanying thought body of such a one, manifesting in much the way and manner as individuals in the Atlantean period of psychic and occult development brought about in their experience. Through such projections there came about that first necessity of the division of the body, to conform to those necessities of that as seen in its own mental vision as builded (MENTAL now - Don’t confuse these terms, or else you will become VERY confused in what is being given!).

8. The mental vision by its action upon what body is being builded? On the mental body of the individual in a material world, out of Spirit, out of the ability to have all the attributes of the spiritual or unseen forces - but MATERIALIZED forces, as is necessary from the mental body in a material world MENTALLY trained to, or in, certain directions, or given directions, or following the natural bent of its threefold or three-ply body, as is seen in every individual or every entity. As these projected themselves, then we find these DEVELOPMENTS were in this portion of the development in the Atlantean period.

How were these used? In much as were from the beginning. Remember there was ever the instruction to those peoples that were to hold to that that would bring for the spiritual forces, rather than the abuses of the abilities - as those with familiar spirits, as those that spoke to or partook of the divinations of those that had passed from the earth’s plane, or those that partook of the animal magnetism - that came from the universal consciousness of animal matter as passed into its experience, in its interchange through those periods of integration and disintegration - and the spirit forces possessing those that would lay themselves open to such conditions, for these are as real as physical bodies if the attunements of the entity are such that it may vision them! and they are about you always, sure!

These, then, are entities - sure; whether animal or those endowed with the soul - until they pass through those changes - as there ever has been, see? Also there are those that ever make for those channels in the psychic and occult (we are speaking of, through which man - as it reached that stage, or that position that it became farther and farther from its natural sources, through the same CHARACTER of channel may it communicate with that from which it is a portion of, or the Creative Forces), and hence the terminology arose as ‘Good Spirits’ and ‘Bad Spirits’; for there are those that partake of the earth, or of the carnal forces, rather than of those forces that are of the spiritual or CREATIVE.

Those that are destruction are of the Earth. Those that are constructive, then, are the good - or the divine and the devilish, bringing for those developments in their various phases. Hence the greater development of that called occult, or psychic forces, during the Atlantean period - and the use of same, and the abuse of same - was during its first thousand years, as we would call light years; not the light of the star, but the sun goes down and the sun goes down - years. That brought about those cycles, or those changes. Hence we have that which has been given through many of the sources of information, or the channels for individuals - and in those, these, the entity - as a voice upon waters, or as the wind that moved among the reeds and harkened, or again as when the morning stars sang together and the sons of God beheld the coming of man into his own, through the various realms as were brought by the magnifying of, or the deteriorating of, the use of those forces and powers as manifested themselves in a MATERIAL area, or those that partook of carnal to the gratification of that that brought about its continual HARDENING and less ability to harken back through that from WHICH it came, and partaking more and more OF that upon which it became an eater of; or, as is seen even in the material forces in the present: We find those that partake of certain elements, unless these become very well balanced WITH all SOURCES - Of what?

That of which there were the first causes, or nature, or natural, or God’s sources or forces are. Hence ELEMENTS - not rudiments; elements - as are termed in the terminology of the student of the anatomical, physiological, psychological forces within a body - GERMS! Sure they are germs! for each are as atoms of power - From what? That source from which it has drawn its essence upon what it feeds. Is one feeding, then, its soul? or is one feeding its body? or is one feeding that inter between (its mental body) to its own undoing, or to those foolishnesses of the simple things of life? Being able, then, to partake OF the physical but not a part of same - but more and more feeding upon those sources from which it emanates itself, or of the SPIRITUAL life, so that the physical body, the mental body, are attuned TO its soul forces, or its soul source, its Creator, its Maker, in such a way and manner, as it develops.

9. What, then, IS psychic force? What IS occult science? A developing of the abilities within each individual that has not lost its sonship, or its relation to its Creator, to live upon - or demonstrate more and more through phenomena of whatever nature from which it takes its source, for that individual activity of that entity itself through the stages of development through which it has passed, and giving of its life source that there may be brought INTO being that which gives more knowledge of the source FROM which the entity ESSENCE (Isn’t a good word, but signifies that intended to be expressed; not elements, not rudiments, but ESSENCE of the entity itself, ITS spirit and soul - its spirit being its portion of the Creator, its soul that of its entity itself, making itself individual, separate entity, that may be one WITH the Creative Force from which it comes - or which it is! of which it is made up, in its atomic forces, or in its very essence itself!) emanates; and the more this may be manifest, the greater becomes the occult force.

10. To what uses, then, did these people in this particular period give their efforts, and in what directions were they active? As many almost as there were individuals! for, as we find from the records as are made, to some there was given the power to become the sons of God; others were workers in brass, in iron, in silver, in gold; others were made in music, and the instruments of music. These, then, we find in the world today (Today, now - we are reasoning from today). Those that are especially gifted in art - in its various forms; and a real artist (as the world looks at it) isn’t very much fit for anything else! yet it is - What? An expression of its concept OF that from WHICH it, that entity, sprang - through the various stages of its evolution (if you choose to call it such) in a material world, or that which it fed its soul or its mental being for its development through its varied experiences IN a material world. These, then, are but manifestations (occult forces) in individuals who are called geniuses, or gifted in certain directions.

Read it two or three times if you need to but I will try to clarify some points and elaborate on this subject and more in the next posting.